Sunday, 29 November 2009

Geological Pace

The bit of the Anglican church that CAN be distinguished from the Taliban, has won a small legal victory this week, over the part of the Anglican church that can't.

Four church buildings that are owned by the Diocese of New Westminster - of which Vancouver is a part - were being occupied by groups of insurgents, although they would consider themselves to be 'traditionalists'. Others might call them conservatives, or, probably the most appropriate term would straightforwardly be bigots.

These bigots had decided that the Anglican church was getting too full of women and homosexuals, and in fact the women were encouraging the homosexuals. Once you let women in, gays come in through the back door so-to-speak;)
So they decided to break away from the Anglican church (the abstract entity), but not from the actual church buildings, no, they thought they'd hang on to those.

It has taken a long, long time, and has had an impact on other progress. Last year the Diocesan Synod would not move forward on blessing of same sex marriages - you know, the marriages that are allowed by law here - because this was sub jucidice. Now, the Supreme Court of BC has ruled that they had no right to those buildings and they have to give them back.

Our bishop, Michael, has issued a letter in which he emphasises inclusivity, warns against 'triumphalism' - rather British of him I thought - and then says that he will appoint new clergy to those churches.
Nicely done.

Just to hammer the point home, I thought I'd include a funny that Sleepy sent on to me this week. It pokes fun at the reasons which get given for why women shouldn't be priests.

Ten Reasons Why Men Should Not be Ordained.

10. A man’s place is in the army.

9. For men who have children, their duties might distract them from the responsibilities of being a parent.

8. Their physical build indicates that men are more suited to tasks such as chopping down trees and wrestling mountain lions. It would be “unnatural” for them to do other forms of work.

7. Man was created before woman. It is therefore obvious that man was a prototype. Thus, they represent an experiment, rather than the crowning achievement of creation.

6. Men are too emotional to be priests or pastors. This is easily demonstrated by their conduct at football games and watching basketball tournaments.

5. Some men are handsome; they will distract women worshippers.

4. To be ordained pastor is to nurture the congregation. But this is not a traditional male role. Rather, throughout history, women have been considered to be not only more skilled than men at nurturing, but also more frequently attracted to it. This makes them the obvious choice for ordination.

3. Men are overly prone to violence. No really manly man wants to settle disputes by any means other than by fighting about it. Thus, they would be poor role models, as well as being dangerously unstable in positions of leadership.

2. Men can still be involved in church activities, even without being ordained. They can sweep paths, repair the church roof, change the oil in the church vans, and maybe even lead the singing on Father’s Day. By confining themselves to such traditional male roles, they can still be vitally important in the life of the Church.

1. In the New Testament account, the person who betrayed Jesus was a man. Thus, his lack of faith and ensuing punishment stands as a symbol of the subordinated position that all men should take.


Sleepy said...

What does that mean though?
"I intend to invite them to stay..."
The Catholic Church will have them seeing as they are just about to lose the WHOLE of fecking Ireland!
(Have a look at the online Irish papers and the responses to the articles.)

Schneewittchen said...

I think he means exactly that (what you said). He can't say, 'well you lot can bugger off' because that is against Jesus's message, and he's sticking to that message because it is one of inclusivity. It's a kind of invitation to 'see things our way' or fall on their swords and cross to the Catholic Church. WHat he CAN say, and has, is that he's replacing their leaders, the people who encouraged them in this. The bigots will either follow their bigot leaders out into the fields, or into other churches, OR....they can be led by the 'liberal Bishop''s own women and men. And most seriously, I'm not by any means saying there's no prejudice in our church, you and I both know there is, but the FACT is, that whether they are able to be 'out' or not, the Anglican church, or at least our bit of it, is being held together by gay and lesbian women and men, so almost certainly, probably three of those four new leaders will be women, gay or not, or gay men.
I'll check out the Irish papers :))

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Sleepy said...

Randy Murphy?
Are you sure?
That's so obviously an Irish Porn name!